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Megan gave me a lot of homework for this episode.

Like, no spoilers, but a lot of homework.

I had a list and I wasn’t going to leave the park till I checked everything off the list.

I will say I gave her one of the conspiracies today and she debunked it and has photo evidence.

So we talk about that.

Oh, I did without even knowing it.

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So is it time for our drink check?

kait, what are we drinking today?

All righty-roo.

We are having some rare gingers.

TM.

I’m confused when you’re saying that.

So it’s not a real thing?

Isn’t it just called a whiskey ginger?

We got here, kait said, guys, I don’t have anything for drink check.

And so we rated Bourbon Boy’s bourbon stack.

And we found some.

Bourbon Boy was like, you guys can’t have any of this stuff.

It’s too good.

It’s too good.

It’s my good stuff.

You drank all my cheap stuff.

I mean, a couple of days ago, kait said, you should come over, Megan.

Bourbon Boy will make us some hot toddies.

And he was surprised when I got here.

I was like, where’s that toddy?

And he was acting like he was down to the drugs at that point.

I should have come prepared.

And then he went out and got us ginger ale.

Yeah.

And some wild turkey 101.

But we’re not drinking wild turkey.

Oh, we’re not.

What are we drinking?

Rare Ginger.

Don’t worry.

I’ll post this to the Instagram for the recipe.

It’s very complicated.

So it’s one part bourbon, two parts ginger ale.

We’re using Canada Dry because there’s no other ginger ale that is worth anything.

Canada Dry forever.

Shout out, Micaela.

Okay.

Shall we get into it, ladies?

Let’s do it.

Have you guys ever had a childhood before?

Yes.

You ever watch movies growing up?

Channel 25, channel 50.

Mine was 54.

255.

These are all the Disney channels.

Today, we’re channeling in to the conspiracies behind Mr.

Walt and the wall he hides behind.

That was a really nice ad lib for Colleen.

Thank you for getting us started.

I’m going to start by saying, I reached out to the Redditors and I said, we’re doing a Disney episode.

Tell me what your favorite Disney conspiracy is.

I got a lot.

So I was going to just start with some of those, and then we’ll get into them.

So the first thing I learned is more of a fun fact, but apparently, Kelvington tells us that in Orlando, that’s where you went, right?

So we’re talking Disney World here.

Anything over 200 feet tall needs a flashing light on on the top for aviation.

So they intentionally built the castle to be 195 feet tall, so they wouldn’t have to put this light on.

Oh, wow.

Except they messed up because they didn’t account for the tunnels, which we’ll talk about.

The tunnels, the tunnels are 12 feet.

So the castle doesn’t start until 12 feet above the tunnels that Utilidor, if you will.

And so the castle is actually 207 feet tall.

And then, interestingly, the Tower of Terror is 199 feet.

Exactly.

Wow.

Tower of Terror Disney World?

Yep.

It’s in the Hollywood studio section, which I didn’t get to ride that this time.

But do you like?

I love that.

I don’t normally like sudden drops, but that one has such a cool build up.

Like the waiting in line, first of all, aced.

Second of all, really cool.

And then the people who work on that ride fully committed.

110 percent.

First time I went to Disney World, I was eight or nine years old.

My dad really wanted to ride the Tower of Terror.

And I was like, no, I don’t want to do it.

I don’t want to do it.

And I was like, OK, fine, I’ll do it.

We get on the ride.

And for anyone who hasn’t done Tower of Terror, it is like a lot of buildup.

Did you know what you were getting into?

Yeah.

OK.

It’s like a lot of buildup before you get to the drop.

So you get on and they like take you through this like tunnel of unsolved mysteries and the whole time and it’s like dark and you can’t see anything.

And I’m next to my dad and I’m just like anticipating the fall.

When is it going to happen?

So then you finally get on this like elevator shaft and they take you up.

And then they put you at the top, open the windows and then drop you.

They dropped and then they flung me back up, didn’t stop at the top.

And then you kept, then you fell.

Yeah, there’s a different pattern every time.

Yeah, there is a different pattern every time.

I was terrified.

On the picture, I was like squeezed down next to my dad, like gripping this like bar that went across your lap.

And that was how I looked.

And for years afterwards, I was so terrified of elevators, I took the stairs everywhere.

My god.

That kind of tracks for you.

Well, this is my memory that previously, I think I was maybe thinking of like, like Jaws at Universal Studios or something.

And so then I was probably college age and we did the Jungle Cruise ride.

And it’s like very boring and child friendly.

And you just like are on the boat and you go through and there’s like all these little animals.

But I was so sure that like something was going to come out of the water, like the Jaws ride.

And I just remember at one point, I like screamed and dove to the ground and nothing had happened.

And all the little kids on the ride were looking at me like something was wrong with me.

Like I was crazy.

The Jungle Cruise ride is like a humor ride.

Yeah, it’s like it’s supposed to be comedy.

I don’t remember being funny, but I just remember being really boring.

It was not scary is the point.

Nothing is jumping out of you.

On the boat are like cracking jokes the whole time.

I don’t know, but nobody acknowledged.

Nobody was like, ma’am, are you okay?

It was just all these…

I was like, and I leapt and all the little kids were staring at me like there was something wrong with me.

Like college?

Yeah, I could not.

I’ve seen worse.

That’s so embarrassing.

I was only eight.

Yeah, that’s embarrassing, Megan.

I cannot.

Okay, jazlikemuscle104 responded to our Reddit request.

My favorite sounds like a conspiracy but really happened Disney story is the sleight of hand used to acquire the land to build the Disney World theme park in Florida.

And so pretty much Disney created all of these company names.

So there’s Latin American development, Reedy Creek Ranch, Bay Lake properties.

Those are some examples.

And these are the names you will find now on the windows of main Street USA in the Magic Kingdom.

So these were just dummy corporation names that Walt and Roy Disney used to purchase 27,000 acres of swamp land in Florida for under $200 an acre in 1965.

Wow.

And then they had some shady characters who helped them with this.

Paul Hallowell, who ran the CIA operations in Southeast Asia, and William Wild Bill Donovan, who was former head of the OSS.

So that was like before the CIA was the CIA.

They were hired by Walt Disney to help plan and carry out this operation.

Disney’s team led by his brother Roy and his lawyer Richard Irvine purchased land through various shell companies and intermediaries by doing so they kept their true intentions hidden from the public and land owners because they were like, if everyone knows we’re going to build this big Disney world, then land prices are going to skyrocket.

These people who own the property are going to hold out for more money.

So they wanted this all to be top secret.

And they code named it Project X.

It was kept completely confidential to avoid attracting any attention and inflating prices.

And then this allowed Disney to buy land at lower prices.

So once it came out, I think there was a lot of anger from the landowners who had sold their land.

I’d be pissed too.

Yeah, but that, right?

It stands up in court what he did, right?

So this is all legal.

It’s just unethical.

So then when people started to get annoyed, like, wait, something big is happening here.

And they were like, oh, it’s Ford.

Ford is building something.

So then people were all mad at Ford.

Why do you think it was Ford?

Because that’s what Walt Disney told them.

But that’s like whatever the group leaked.

But Ford had nothing to do with this.

So now people are mad at Ford.

Disney is doing their top secret purchase.

So initially when he was doing this, the land he was buying up was, he was getting land for $80 an acre.

Oh my gosh.

And then we came to that average because towards the end, people figured it out.

They started having to jack up the price.

And they’ve actually only developed a third of the land they purchased.

And a quarter of the land remains a nature preserve.

Wow.

And then the next step in like this fishiness was that Disney and Hallowell came up with this plan to set up a puppet government.

So they established two phantom cities and this would allow them to be able to pay themselves taxes from the profits.

So they can build airports, they do their own waste removal, their own fire department, all of that.

And then in order to run for office, you have to own land on this property.

So well, Disney owns everything, right?

So they just like pick a couple of loyalists and they appoint them.

They’re like, you have this little bit of land.

And so now you get to be a representative when we have to go to like state it.

Like they just pretty much made themselves a city so that they could have all of the city rights and it’s making them more money.

They’re not getting taxed as much.

It’s just like all kind of a big scam.

Wow.

So, but now let’s get in to some of the big theories, okay?

So the most famous one that I think most people have heard about, if you’re listening to this is definitely this one.

What do you think it is?

Frozen head.

That’s right.

The cryogenics theory.

So the theory goes that in 1966, Walt Disney was cryogenically frozen after he died.

Some theories say it’s his head.

I thought it was just his head.

Just his head.

Some say it’s the whole body.

I think I think that because a family guy.

Oh, was it?

Did they like do that?

Or a few drama or some one of those.

I’m sure they made fun of it.

Yeah.

Adult swim.

So the purpose of him doing this is that he hoped future technology would allow him to be revived.

Some of the rumors also state that he this all where his head is being stored, his head or body has been stored.

Underneath it.

Underneath what?

The castle.

Oh, the Pirates of the Caribbean as well.

Oh, I didn’t know that.

What?

Because the Pirates of the Caribbean was being built when he died, and it opened three months after his death.

Oh, interesting.

Yeah.

But there’s a lot of other stuff about Pirates of the Caribbean.

Pirates of the Caribbean.

Did you know, first of all, that the movies were based on the ride?

Well, yeah.

Yeah.

But did you know that when they first built Pirates of the Caribbean, they used real skeletons.

Because it was cheaper.

Because it was cheaper.

Yeah.

And since then, they have replaced them, but apparently there’s still like one or two skulls that are…

Oh, I’m very intrigued.

Which ones?

I wrote that like three times.

Wow.

It’s very relaxing.

It’s the coolest ride.

You wait in AC, you sit in AC, it smells good.

As I recall last time I went, weren’t they like, aren’t they like pirates chasing prostitutes and stuff?

Yeah.

They like class.

Is it the same still?

Yeah.

They haven’t brought it into 2020.

No.

I mean, sex work is pro-sex work.

We don’t even call it sex work anymore, right?

Oh, I thought we did.

I thought sex workers was the unoffensive term.

Oh, let’s see.

What is it?

What are you supposed to call?

Everybody’s furiously Googling.

I’m woke.

I don’t know.

I get a lot of sex workers on my TikTok.

And they’re like legit sex workers.

Like they live on camps and men travel to them.

Oh, like in Vegas?

Yeah.

It’s like a whole thing.

And then there’s a sex worker.

I don’t follow them.

OK.

They just pop up on my free page.

OK.

I don’t know what I do to get these sex workers on my free page.

But it’s very eye opening.

And this one’s in Australia.

And apparently, it’s legal to be a sex worker in Australia.

She’s living the good life, guys.

I got not to normalize sex working, but she makes a lot of money and lives comfortably.

I am of the old realm that I’m like a sex worker.

Yeah, I am anti sex worker.

It’s very controversial.

I say if it’s a choice you are making, you have control and you are keeping your proceeds.

You do you, girl.

Doesn’t mean it’s for you or me or Colleen.

Yeah, but do you?

You do you.

Back to the original question, though.

Oh, and then along with this cryogenics theory is the theory that the whole reason that the movie Frozen was created.

It’s because he’s frozen.

It’s so that when you Google Walt Disney Frozen, the stories don’t pop up anymore.

Like the Taylor Swift move.

Yeah.

You don’t see her better jets anymore.

That’s right.

Well, that’s kind of a power move.

When you Google Taylor Swift jets, you see a photo of her in a jets game.

You don’t see the statistics about her jet use.

That’s so interesting.

So I guess why would this happen?

I mean, he had the money.

Cryogenics was new in the years leading up to his death.

What year did he die?

1966.

1966.

So Bob Nelson was the president of the Cryonic Society of California, and he’s the one who told the press that Walt wanted to be frozen, and that’s like, that’s where this probably came from.

But he also said that he hadn’t completed the paperwork in time.

So this could have all just been this, a PR stunt for this guy who’s trying to get other people to pay him a lot of money to, you know, freeze them.

Were the people frozen?

I mean, apparently, there’s a Cryonic Society of California.

Oh, my God.

To debunk this.

There are records that he was cremated.

Also, though, they’re always cremated, right?

Though we can’t verify.

But there’s paperwork that he is cremated at Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale.

And his daughter, Diane Disney, issued a rebuttal.

And she just said, I doubt my father had even heard of Cryonics.

So.

Yeah, but does she know?

Yeah, she doesn’t know.

She doesn’t know.

Isn’t Walt, like, wasn’t he kind of creepy?

We’re gonna, you guys are, he was creepy.

And we’re gonna tiny little mice voice.

He was just maybe not as nice as…

Do you think Mickey’s creepy?

Hey, guys.

He’s for kids.

Okay.

So the next thing that a lot, I think a lot of people know about, and what came up a lot on the Reddit thread was the tunnels.

So if you’re unfamiliar, the Utilidors are these tunnels that are used to allow cast members to get around easily.

And they were allegedly built because Walt was like walking around and he saw a cowboy cutting through Tomorrowland and he felt like that negatively impacted the experience.

So there’s also like a train station down there so they can move like ride parts around and like landscaping and plumbing all runs through there.

There’s lots of storage space.

There’s a lot of stuff for the employees down there.

There’s a Mousekateria cafeteria.

There’s a hair salon to maintain those strict Disney requirements.

A lot of the restaurants that the public eats at like the food prep areas and storage are down there.

And that’s how the trash transportation system works.

It’s like through a vacuum.

So I don’t know necessarily, I mean, I know we always like tunnels, what’s happening in the tunnels.

And we’ll talk a bit about the trafficking theories, but the tunnels don’t sound that suspicious to me.

My cousin did the college Disney program, and then she worked for Disney after that.

She did it like three years in a row.

They’re real.

Well, the tunnels are there.

But the question is like, is something fishy happening?

No, that’s just how they get to where they need to go.

Yeah.

And then there’s like, very strict, like you touched it a little bit, there’s very strict Disney rules specifically for the characters.

Yeah.

So like the costume characters.

So like there cannot be two Mickey’s in one part of the park.

Right.

But they use the tunnel system to get them separate.

Right.

Yeah.

I didn’t even think about if they were too many.

There’s so many rules.

And if you’re in costume and if you even remotely see another person in your costume, you’re told to like hide as quick as you can to not ruin the magic.

There’s also like all these.

My roommate in college tried out to be a princess.

Oh my God.

It’s so hard.

It is really hard.

She ended up being like the understudy.

That’s kind of a flex.

Yeah.

There’s very strict like height requirement.

Right.

They can’t be over 5’3.

Yeah, you’d be better to be a princess.

The hair color doesn’t matter because every princess has to wear a wig no matter what.

So that the hair looks the same every time a kid meets you.

But it is so shit.

I also heard they can’t release you until the kid release.

So if they hug, the kid has to let go first.

Oh, really?

There’s so many rules.

That could be so awkward.

What if Joey might just ever let go?

Right.

Yeah, I’d be like…

Well, that’s why they always have a helper.

They always have like their partner.

Like a distractor.

So I did do a little deep dive to try to figure out…

wait, I’m sorry.

A parent would probably be like, that’s enough.

Let go of Mickey.

Let go of Mickey.

And I’d always heard, honestly, I think my mom used to tell me stories about where she heard…

I couldn’t fact check this, but they can find any kid in Disney in like minutes.

And the first thing they’d ask you is, what was he wearing?

And is he right-handed or left-handed?

I like to follow Brunch with Babs.

She’s a grandma who gives a lot of tips.

Honestly, I want to be Brunch with Babs.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And she did give some airplane tips one time, like if you go to the airport.

And one of the things she said is, when you’re in the security line, you tend to want to go in the direction, like when it splits off, they’ve checked your drivers license.

You want to go in the direction that is your dominant hand.

Really?

And most people are right-handed, so most people instinctively go right.

And so if you’re in the security line, you should go left.

And so I’ve tracked this with my friends multiple times, and I’ve always come out first going left.

I’m going to start doing that now.

So I did learn this, but my mom was saying that that’s also the way it is at Disney.

Like they’ll be like, are they right-handed?

They’re right-handed.

So then they can like plot where they think they would go, and they’ve got cameras everywhere.

And silly stand 4470 says, but also child trafficking.

Disney is near Epstein Island and bought it.

Children are more likely to quote, take a private tour with their favorite character, and then boom, vanish.

So I did a little digging, like do we have any case, known cases of like trafficking at Disney?

And I couldn’t find much.

What I did find is that like last year, four Disney employees were among 108 people who were arrested in connection with an undercover human trafficking operation in Florida.

But there’s no indication that any of these crimes like occurred at a Disney resort.

Interesting.

In 2014, CNN reported that at least 35 Disney employees have been arrested for sex crimes against children attempting to meet minors for sex and possession of child pornography over an eight year span.

I believe that.

That’s creepy.

But again, it doesn’t sound like this is happening necessarily like at Disney.

It’s just like where you find children, you’re going to find predators and it’s really sad and unfortunate.

So pretty much, I guess my takeaway is I haven’t seen any like creepy Disney crimes happening, but it does make sense.

It’s like when we unfortunately see things about, you know, teachers or whatever that well, the majority of that population is positive.

It is a place that’s going to attract people with negative motivations.

Yeah.

There was also some Disney, the Disney Cruise.

Disney Dream Cruise had a couple of situations.

In 2014, after a crew member on the Disney Dream Cruise ship was caught on security cameras, molested an 11-year-old girl, Disney authorities failed to report the crime until after the ship had left port, which allowed the man to evade arrest.

And then when one of the security officers protested with like the plan, the Disney authorities allegedly told her to keep her mouth shut.

And so I would say, again, we’re going to talk, the next thing I would talk about is the dark side of Disney and how they really do try to cover up things and keep their squeaky clean image.

To be fair, this is all disgusting and heinous.

We can all agree, right?

But also the Me Too movement didn’t really gain traction until 2017.

So, I mean, I can see, I think for sure the management, how people handed these situations was definitely, you know, different before then.

But again, I didn’t find anything on like people actually trafficked at Disney, at any Disney resorts.

I mean, I have thought for a long time, like losing a kid in Disney would be…

But apparently, it’s near impossible.

There are so many cast members, literally everywhere.

They have cameras everywhere.

They have security everywhere.

I think that that’s…

again, I was trying to find statistics to reference that because the story my mom had told me.

And I have not…

I could not find like statistics, but what I’ve always heard is that they can find any kid within minutes anywhere in the park.

And you can’t just like exit.

Like, there’s no like getting out unnoticed.

You know what I mean?

Like, they’d catch that.

And even when you exit the Disney parks, you’re at Disney resorts.

Like, it’s still Disney.

They still have a way to find you.

Yeah.

I’ve always thought that magic band, they should put a tracker in it.

Oh, I didn’t…

Because kids…

Because you just wear it around the park, right?

You don’t have to.

I have a card.

I had a card.

Mine was like a…

I didn’t feel like…

It’s like 50 bucks a band.

I didn’t feel like paying that.

Yeah.

So I used the card.

I am going to get hair tags.

That is smart, though.

again, I guess going into Disney’s dark side.

So there’s a lot of conspiracy theories that suggest that Disney tries to give off this happy, magical, positive vibe, and they do a lot to cover up any dark sinister elements behind that cheerful public image.

Right.

And so one that comes up a lot, that I think you can maybe give us a little bit of insight into, is that, is this theory that nobody dies at Disney home.

So they say allegedly that like they will move dead bodies outside of the park in order to avoid having to report the deaths is like on site.

And I think part of that is that like a lot of people are not declared dead wherever their event happens, right?

You take them to the hospital and they’re declared at the hospital for the most part.

To debunk this, I did actually find a report.

There have in fact been 93 fatalities caused by 90 separate incidents at Disney.

And so those are ones where like they were actually declared there.

So I think this is not true that nobody died at Disney.

I was going to say I listened to a whole podcast about all the people that died at Disney.

And so, yeah, it’s debunked.

You said 93, I think when I read it or I listened to it, it was like 87.

What was the worst one?

I can’t remember.

I think it was probably a lot of like heat exhaustion, heart attacks.

There was one that they were flown from the roller coaster.

It was a kid.

I can’t get this kid.

I think he’s one of these.

They take the height.

But then like stemming off of this is this theory that maybe part of the reason for this is they don’t want ambulances to be coming into Disney.

They want it to be a positive, cheerful scene and so I was told that also there are no uniformed, like there’s no police officers, there’s no EMTs because they want it to be a happy scene.

They don’t want to concern anybody.

But while Colleen was on her trip, she sent the picture of police officers in uniform, patrolling in Disney, right?

But they’re Disney police officers.

So like their uniform, if you looked closely, I don’t think I got a front shot because I was taking these pictures really creepily.

They, their logo has like the Disney D on it.

Like it’s like very clearly Disney branded, but I did not see any EMTs, which I expected to see because of how hot it was.

Yeah, but there’s like Disney first aid centers, but they’re everywhere, but they’re not noticeable.

So we should have asked your cousin about this because apparently there is also a rumor online.

They had like excerpts from contracts that the Disney characters sign.

And there’s a part in there that says if they have a medical emergency, CPR will not be started until the character has been removed from sight.

And only then can their costume be removed and resuscitation started because they don’t want any kids to see like snow white getting CPR or snow white’s costume coming off and her getting CPR.

Oh my gosh.

How is that legal?

Do they sign a paperwork?

I think it’s in there.

It’s in the contract.

I don’t know if I believe that.

Colleen, did you get a response from your cousin?

Yeah, this is a shout out to my cousin, Becky.

She was a Disney employee, and her friend was a, like when you’re a character, you’re like a friend of the character, but she didn’t tell me what character.

So if I dress up as Mickey, you say, oh, I’m a friend of Mickey.

When you’re not dressed up as Mickey?

Yeah.

Like when people are like, what do you do at Disney?

I’m a friend of Cinderella.

Yeah, because you can’t say, I am a Cinderella.

Yeah.

Her friend was a friend of a character.

I don’t know what character.

Meaning she was actually a character, guys.

Okay.

That was painful.

She said, I inquired about the contract regarding medical emergencies.

And she said, no, I never saw anything like that.

We had a hand signal if we needed to get off stage for whatever reason so we could leave whenever.

But I assume that was if somebody, say, passed out in front of in the costume, they’d clear the room just for safety reasons as well, as keeping the magic alive, question mark.

I don’t know.

I never experienced it happening or heard about it happening.

But I did have to use the hand signal once because my hair bandana thing slid down over my eyes and I couldn’t see.

So I don’t know if you’d have time to do a hand signal if you’re having a medical emergency.

But they do have communications.

I would like to rebut and say, did she read her whole contract?

Probably not.

And then Becky said, this also was 10 years ago.

So she probably doesn’t really remember the fine details.

Yeah.

I mean, most people, they’re like, here, sign this.

And do you guys always read all the fine?

Never.

No, probably never.

No, only lawyers read it all.

Yeah.

Insane.

Becky’s friend also said, and I quote, Yeah, I mean, I’d be very surprised if there was the longest you’re on stage is 45 minutes and 45 minutes was always inside and air conditioned.

But I don’t know, I saw Stitch out and about on the streets.

You know what I mean?

Like, so I don’t know.

And then going on about Disney kind of protecting the family friendly image.

So this is an interesting one that I think we talked about as well before you left.

So what you already knew about this, right?

Describe the point like Walt or Colleen.

Oh, two fingers that way.

So Disney, is that what everyone?

That’s what the statue is, right?

That’s what the every picture, every statue, like the famous statue of Walt in front of the castle.

His hands are like this.

The Disney point is a thing.

So if you listen, I only know this because I used to have a YouTube obsession and I used to watch YouTube vloggers, specifically YouTube vloggers of the people in the Disney College program.

And they talk about, you’re only allowed to point in two different ways.

Your index and middle finger together or your four fingers together.

And that’s the only way you’re allowed to point.

So do you know where the two finger point like Walt came from?

I do, but…

Because I told you.

Tell me all about it.

The two point point like Walt came from the fact that he was a chain smoker.

Every photograph of Walt Disney, he had a cigarette between his two fingers.

And so obviously now that’s kind of, you know, looked down upon, we don’t want to encourage our children to be smoking.

So they have edited out the cigarette in all of his photos.

And so when you see the two finger point, it was probably had a cigarette in his finger between his fingers that got removed.

And you know, I’m looking at, they really leaned into it.

I’m looking at, I’m Googling Walt Disney pictures.

He was apparently a very, he was very compulsive, very anxious.

We can relate to that.

Heavy drinker, heavy smoker.

Right.

You know, Disney was racist apparently.

I couldn’t believe that.

That really, everybody was.

Everybody was.

And when you guys know better too about the olds in Florida.

You always reference the Steamboat Willie, right?

Oh, yeah.

And the old Disney.

And like the Mount Everest, like the characters from Mount Everest, weren’t they like known to be?

Oh, no, you’re talking about Flash mountain.

Yeah.

Well, why?

Apparently.

Well, I’m referring to the movies.

So I know we’re kind of going back and forth here between like Disney and Disney himself and the movies.

So looking at his movies, this kind of stems from like the movies in the 40s.

I think we were a little less open to the perspectives of other people.

So in Dumbo, have you seen Dumbo?

Yeah.

The black crows are apparently racist.

I haven’t seen Dumbo in a long time, but I…

I was trying to think of the plot of Bambi today.

Couldn’t remember any of it.

What do you call a deer with no eyes?

No idea.

What do you call a deer with no eyes, no legs?

Still no idea.

What do you call a deer with no eyes, no legs?

And what is it?

It’s like no dick.

Still no fucking idea.

I guess the black servant in Fantasia.

Fantasia was never my favorite.

I hated it the first time I came.

How many Disney adults love Fantasia?

I fell asleep watching Fantasia.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen the full movie.

But the big one is Song of the South.

Have you seen it?

Walt sounds racist.

Song of the South.

No.

Well, you probably haven’t.

You know why?

It’s so offensive that Disney has pulled it and it can no longer be seen in public.

Oh, OK.

Briar Rabbit, Briar Fox, Briar Bear.

Those characters from Splashman on the basis in the Song of the South.

The story follows seven-year-old Johnny, who is visiting his grandmother’s plantation for an extended day.

Johnny befriends Uncle Remus, an elderly worker on the plantation, and takes joy in hearing his tales about the adventures of Briar Rabbit, Briar Fox, and Briar Bear.

Yeah, that’s excellent.

Well, it’s criticized for his depiction of black Americans in a post-slavery era.

Anyway, he was known reportedly for using racial slurs and not hiring a minority, so there was this thought already that he was like maybe racist.

And apparently, he knew, he anticipated that the Song of the South was going to be really controversial.

And so he was like, well, let me see what I can do, let me just do a rewrite.

We’re going to try to make this less racist.

And so he set up a meeting with NAACP where he tried to, but the meeting never happened and the movie was just released anyway.

So it’s like, it almost makes it worse that he didn’t even just like release this movie and it was bad if he was like, well, he didn’t really try.

He was like, maybe we should do something, but I don’t have the patience to wait around.

Yeah.

There was also some controversy about the company’s unwillingness to hire minorities at Disneyland, as I mentioned.

And then there’s reports that Walt Disney was sexist.

Some of his associates thought Walt didn’t particularly like women.

He didn’t trust women or cats.

Cats?

I don’t trust a cat either.

What’s wrong with cats?

Didn’t you say cats are aliens?

Yeah, but I like my cat.

Benny’s not like other cats.

He’s not like other cats, no.

He’s a cool cat.

He didn’t employ women except as inkers.

So they were the ones who would like hand paint film.

And apparently he forced them to work like eight hour work weeks.

And he infamously rejected a woman who submitted like a cartoon.

Yeah, submitted an idea by saying, quote, women do not do any of the creative work in connection with preparing the cartoons for the screen, as that work is performed entirely by men.

Once again, we have to remember it was a different era, but not cool, you know?

Yeah.

I mean, if it was racist, he was probably sexist.

I mean, again, I’m not surprised.

Have you seen the old like Disney princess movies?

There’s no way.

Oh my God.

So bad.

Well, listen, I’m not anti true love.

And the prince saving the-

And the prince saving a girl, but there I am anti dumb girls.

Yeah.

Because not all girls are dumb.

Some are, but not all.

And then on this to the same point, Disney was allegedly a Nazi.

So the theory is that he was a sympathizer until the invasion of Poland.

Once the US entered the war, it was kind of an unacceptable position to publicly hold.

But during the war, Disney did make anti Nazi pro US military cartoons.

So you would think, wait, maybe not.

Maybe he’s not so pro Nazi.

Maybe he was all short.

But when you compare to the propaganda that was created by the Warner Brothers, it was like, like 2%.

So we just compared it to everything else was happening.

The theory is that he was pro Nazi and then he was like, okay, well now, you know, I don’t want to be communist or like I don’t want to be labeled a communist.

Right.

So I’m going to like really make a couple posters and call it a day.

But he didn’t do what everyone else in the entertainment industry was doing at the time.

There’s a three little pig scene in which the wolf was portrayed as a Jewish peddler, and then they actually had to remove and reanimate the scene.

Oh, wow.

And then there’s the fact that in 1938, a month after Crystal Knot, which was like, that was the precursor to the Final Solution.

So 90 Jews were killed.

A month later, Disney personally welcomes Nazi director Lenny Reifenstahl to his studios.

To be clear, I guess no employees ever came forward to claim anti-Semitism, but he was a member of the Motion Picture Alliance, which was known to be anti-Semitic.

So that’s kind of is that where this came from?

So he was a Nazi lover.

Maybe, and then there is someone did say…

Maybe Hitler escaped Germany and hung out in Disney, in the tunnels.

In the tunnels.

Well, there’s also rumors of a vault.

There was a really good post on Reddit that I really wanted to dig into, and I couldn’t find anything on it.

So one user said, Have you jumped down the underground vaults yet?

Everyone knows Disney parks have expensive underground tunnels for staff, but it has been alleged for years that Disney built expensive doomsday vaults with planned social structure like the vision Disney had for the experimental prototype community of tomorrow, Epcot.

They would train the inhabitants to rebuild the world in a better way after the cataclysm.

The legends were the inspiration for the fallout series of games.

I’m not familiar with games.

I believe this.

I believe all of this.

But when I Google Disney vaults, all that comes up is the Disney films that are going back into the vault, if you will.

I’m like, is this the original?

Were they trying to original Google diversion?

Oh, my goodness.

I do believe that Tomorrowland.

So literally about them.

Tomorrowland’s in Magic Kingdom.

So I literally all I have on this conspiracy theory is what one poster wrote.

But Epcot was supposed to be his vision of like a utopia, right?

Right.

I’m starting to think he’s a little sinister, a little creep.

Yeah.

So briefly, we can just talk about, I know Colleen’s excited about this one, the hidden messages in Disney films.

Oh yeah.

So people believe that Disney movies contain hidden or subliminal messages.

I don’t know of the one.

Well, specifically there’s, so there’s different theories.

There’s theories that like there’s a lot of product placement.

They’re trying to subliminally push these products on us.

That one’s clear.

There’s subliminal messaging about sex.

And then about some some satanic stuff is also in there.

Okay.

wait, I have a question.

Was Walt Disney a Freemason?

You know what?

I want you to hold that thought.

I want you to hold that thought.

I’m pretty sure he was because I remember you listening to a bunch of people.

Hold that thought.

Okay.

Okay.

Also, is he a part of the Illuminati?

Hold that thought.

Product placement.

So I’ll talk about a couple of those.

Steve Jobs was a majority investor in Pixar.

So there’s a lot of Apple product placement.

2001’s Monsters, Inc.

has a magazine ad for a new computer with the slogan, Scare Different, which Apple’s slogan then was Think Different.

When did Walt Disney die?

She said 1966.

That’s the fifth time I’ve said it now.

Oh, 1966.

And then have you guys seen Wall-E?

Yeah.

I love that movie.

Wall-E.

Okay.

Apparently, the character Eve, the extraterrestrial electrician evaluator.

You know what I’m talking about?

Yeah, you gotta say her name like that.

Okay.

Was made to look like a futuristic Apple product.

In fact, when Eve powers on, the robot makes the same sound as the Apple Macbook booting up.

Oh, neat.

So this doesn’t really sound like, I mean, it just sounds like, yeah, you have a big investor.

So obviously-

Obviously, you’d plug it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, I don’t know what-

I know the hidden message.

That is where we’re headed.

Yeah.

The generation after us can’t get off.

Floating tears and big gulps.

Yeah.

And just they’re stuck to screens.

Yeah.

So then we’ve talked about the subliminal messages about sex.

Okay.

So the famous one, what’s the one you know?

Little mermaid.

No.

Oh, you both are right.

What do you have?

It’s Fasa in the sky with the stars.

He poofs into a penis.

No.

You guys, you’re close, but you’re not quite right.

Oh.

There’s a penis in the sky.

That’s all I know.

With stars.

Well, the penis is in The Little mermaid.

What am I thinking?

Well, Simba’s playing.

Guys, they did it to me.

The word sex comes up in the, like the dust gets kicked up by Simba and it spells out sex.

And so the reality is that they actually intentionally did try to hide a word, but they claim Tom Sito, who was one of the animators.

Oh, let me hear it.

He says it’s supposed to be a shout out to the special effects and it’s supposed to say SFX.

No, it doesn’t say that.

It doesn’t matter.

It definitely is an S-E-X.

I’m looking at it.

Well, you got a screenshot because they have since removed it from the film.

God.

Well, they did that on purpose.

At least the streaming version when you stream it on Disney.

By removing it, they basically confirmed it’s a S-E-X.

It’s like their own remodel, right?

There’s no proof of you can’t find proof.

If you look up Sleeping Beauty when she’s ice skating, and then if you look at the pattern that her ice gate makes on the ice, it spells out sex.

Okay.

Toy Story, you know when he goes into the bad guys, like the neighbor, the kid who breaks the toys, and he’s problematic, and he’s got the two legs with the fishing hook on it.

Yeah.

It’s because it’s a hook her.

Oh, my God.

That’s funny.

That is funny.

That was creative.

That’s not subliminal.

That’s just when these shows put in a little bit of adult humor.

I would say that’s like some internet cartoonist behind the screen being like, hang up a hooker in this.

I guess Hercules makes a reference to Oedipus, which…

Well, obviously, he does.

Why is that obvious?

Because it’s Greek.

And then in Aladdin, there’s allegedly a quote where the guy, you can hear a man saying, Good teenagers, take off your clothes.

Oh, my God.

But in what?

In Aladdin.

But I think this one has sort of been debunked, because the man is talking to a cat, and really what he allegedly says is, Good kitty, take off and go.

Yeah, that makes more sense.

You can actually, if you go to Snopes, you can hear the audio clip.

And I believe that that was probably just like a misinterpretation, right?

In the movie, The Rescuers, when they’re flying through the air, there’s a, if you pause at the right moment, they’re flying through the air, and there’s like a high rise behind them, and you’re seeing people in their windows, and there is a naked woman in front of the windows.

Yeah, there is.

I’m looking at The Rescuers.

Let me see, let me see.

Naked woman.

Flip the screen.

Oh, no, she’s like actually naked.

That’s so funny.

And then what, so what’s the mermaid one, kait?

The little mermaid.

There’s a penis in like the…

On the castle.

On the cover.

And then as far as like satanic references, if you look at the Walt Disney logo, all-incursive.

Right.

The W and the Y make a 666.

Let me see.

I believe all of these.

And then, well, I also feel like I saw something once where the guy had a mug.

Here’s what I saw.

So if you get these mugs and it says Mickey inside, when you look at the reflection in the coffee, it says wicked.

Whoa.

This one also I think is less, this was popping up in like the satanic references, and I’m not as impressed by this either.

It just seems kind of like a stupid joke.

But apparently, the Santa Claus starring Tim Allen, who’s…

Oh, the Santa Claus.

The Santa Claus stars Tim Allen as an ordinary man who accidentally causes the death of Santa and has to take over the role of Santa.

Okay, we’ve all seen it.

I’ve seen this one.

I love Santa Claus.

That’s a good one, but they ruined it.

On Disney Plus, there’s a TV series about it.

And in one of the scenes, a group of elves greet Santa with a joyous dance, and they have a sign, and it’s supposed to say, we love you, Santa, but it says, we love you, Satan.

But then it’s part of a joke.

Santa’s like, he points, they all laugh, and they rearrange.

So people are like, oh my god, it’s Disney, and they’re trying to mind control us.

But I’m like, I just think it was a stupid joke.

They wanted you to think it was a stupid joke.

Colleen, just until you said the Santa Claus with an E.

You didn’t know what that meant?

No, I didn’t notice it.

Yeah, because it’s the Claus.

Yeah.

I learned that a year ago.

I was like, mind blown.

Yeah, that’s good.

I thought you spelt Santa Claus with an E.

Do you spell Santa Claus with an E?

No.

I didn’t get that either.

wait.

Oh, because the Claus is that if you kill Santa, you have to become Santa?

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

Because in the first movie, they’re like, read the Claus, and they like whip out the whole merit, like not contract.

Yeah.

It’s not spelled with an E.

Yeah, because it’s the Claus.

I literally learned that a year ago.

It blew my mind.

You just blew our minds.

Yeah.

So let’s talk about Disney liking to rewrite history.

So there’s a theory that just says Disney will alter or sanitize historical facts in both the films and in all the films and in the theme parks to present a more palatable version of history.

So I guess like the big examples, the Pirates of the Caribbean takes place in the 1700s, but there’s no reference to slavery or anything.

Have you seen the Princess and the Frog?

Yes.

I’ve never seen it, but I get the honor.

It takes place in the 1920s in New Orleans.

She’s black, right?

Yeah.

But there’s no reference to like segregation or…

Well, she’s clearly the poor girl.

She’s also clearly only interacts with black people.

No, she works for a white family.

Yeah, she’s like a maid.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So like…

And she lives in a black neighborhood.

Like, that’s the whole bit.

That’s what I mean.

Like, she is…

Is her prince black?

Well, because I thought there was some comment…

Or like Nabeb or something.

There was some comment that they didn’t address that like…

It’s not like…

That interracial relationships were so uncommon and were like technically illegal, like marriages were still illegal in the 20s.

And so I got the vibe, having not seen the movie, that she was in some sort of interracial relationship.

Or they just made it like a happy romance.

Pretty certain he’s like Hispanic or something along that line.

He actually looks like Middle Eastern.

Yeah.

Well, his name is like Prince Nabeib or something.

Naveen.

And I would say it makes it clear that like she interacts with one type of person, but they don’t make it depressing.

Naveen, like I said, it’s an Indian name.

And he’s from Maldonia, which is a Eurasian country.

The name is a mix between the Maldives and Macedonia.

So he’s probably from like the Mediterranean Eurasia.

Grace, I’ll give him that.

Yeah.

So very handsome.

He is really handsome.

The whole Pocahontas film entirely, the whole plot is realistic.

Savages.

Come on.

Well, that’s a real story.

No, but I mean, isn’t she like-

No, like I think John Smith-

He gets like raped in real life.

Yeah.

It’s not a good guy.

It was not like fall in love with John Smith.

No, it’s not.

I believe she already had children and things like that.

The whole premise is not.

It’s not happy.

And then, but I guess, so I think honestly, what I’ve gone through so far, I would say is like, like probably what Colleen is trying to get at, like these, you know, four year olds who are watching The Princess and the Frog, probably don’t need a lecture on slavery.

But they have done a couple of things.

Disney has also gone in and re-edited their films.

We’ve made a couple of references to things they’ve removed.

Additionally, there’s going to be like a French connection.

There’s a scene with a racial slur.

They went back, they cut that out.

Saludos Amigos, which is a 1942 film, had a lot of cigarettes.

They went in and they edited all those out.

And then I guess in Toy Story 2, someone makes a crack about like a casting couch crack.

And then Me Too movement happened and they went back and they edited that out.

So I don’t know if that’s like…

I mean, I guess I have mixed feelings because the people online who are like, I think with most films, you don’t want to…

We can say Gone With The Wind is like kind of cringe to watch now at parts, right?

But we wouldn’t want to change that because it’s sort of a reflection of the time.

And so should we be erasing cinematic history because people are going to look back on that when they’re trying to kind of figure out how we lived.

No, we shouldn’t erase history to begin with.

Correct.

So I can see these points like we shouldn’t be going back and editing movies because something that was not in poor taste in the 40s is like now in poor taste.

But I also think it’s a little different when we’re talking about children’s movies.

Yeah.

I mean, right.

Going back to Tiana, like I don’t think kids…

I think it was what Colleen said it was portrayed like very obviously to an adult.

Like the segregation was obvious.

The passengers saw somebody that looked like them.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

And that’s what’s important.

Exactly.

I don’t think what we should be focusing on is like…

No, but what about these thoughts about these other films where Disney actually released…

So like I said, that’s one thing.

That’s…

Disney has had some feedback or has gotten some like, you know, bad rep for like these movies I described, Pirates of the Caribbean, Princess and the Frog, Pocahontas just being like not historically accurate.

But then if we go into that separately, we’re talking about rewriting history, the second conversation is like these films they did make where they had, again, I said French Connection included a racial slur.

They were smoking in Saludos Amigos in the 40s.

They edited all of that out.

They edited out, you know, these jokes because they’re no longer PC.

And so the debate online is like, is that fair to have made a movie that was like with the times and now modern day be like, that was poor taste.

I want to go back and erase that.

Or is it better to keep it as it is so that, and we can all just look at it and recognize that like, wow, the 1940s, we’ve grown a lot since then.

Yeah, it’s better to use it as a lesson, but there’s also so many fricking Disney movies.

Like, why not just take that movie off?

Be like, let’s not.

We don’t.

Yeah, I mean, like Saludos, Saludos Amigos making any money right now, guys?

No, I’ve never even heard of it.

No.

Also, I want to just like cancel culture is so like rampant that like they’re probably just afraid to be canceled.

Yeah, so that’s like if one person watched these Amigos movies saw.

Well, it’s not the it’s not the smoking that’s going to go viral, right?

It’s like who what what movie was it that they the racial slur was in the French connection.

So if one person watches that, they film it, it goes viral on TikTok.

Suddenly, Disney’s canceled.

And unfortunately, that is the reality that we live in right now, is cancel culture makes everyone afraid to post to post anything that doesn’t go along with, you know, a hive mind.

You know, I’m with you, your preacher, the choir girl.

So do I think it’s right now?

But do are they doing it out of like self preservation?

Yeah, they’re not acknowledging the fact that it was racist, they’re just deleting it.

You could also just like add a…

Keep it up.

Say that it’s racist, like have a message in the beginning, have a message at the end.

A trigger warning.

Use it as like a growing pain and not like delete it from your existence.

We all know all these old movies were racist, every single one of them was.

Like learn from that.

Going back to what kait said also about like all it takes for someone watching an old movie, recording it on their phone and it being on TikTok, and there are so many TikToks of people filming Disney shows with Illuminati references.

Oh, there’s like, the one I can think of is like, there’s a goofy, and it might be on Instagram from our Illuminati episode, but like he’s got the Illuminati logo on the bottom of his skateboard.

His skateboard wheels are trying, it’s like, How’s it wheeling?

Well, it’s like triangle with a circle around it, but there’s like in like a three second clip, there’s like five references to the Illuminati.

The theory is that Disney is somehow connected to the Illuminati, a secret society that we’ve talked about, go back and listen to our Illuminati episode.

It is a secret society that is associated with global conspiracies.

So people who believe this argue that Disney symbols and themes hint at a hidden agenda tied to global control or manipulation.

Yeah.

So like I said, there are people kind of referencing back to what kait said, who are watching old episodes of Disney and they’re filming them, and they’re posting them on TikTok, and it’s just like all these crazy Illuminati references.

I believe that.

In DuckTales, Scrooge goes to the doctor and there’s a sign that reads, in the background, ask me about the Illuminati.

What?

In Colleen’s Denver Airport episode, we talked a lot about the murals, right?

That the mural is like a, it’s a small world mural and we already think that the Illuminati is based in the Denver Airport allegedly, right?

And we know that he was a Freemason.

Walt Disney was a Freemason.

And if you believe that the Illuminati went underground with the Freemasons, you know, maybe there’s a connection.

It is definitely there.

I’m looking at it.

Ask about the Illuminati.

The Illuminati.

That’s crazy.

So then the final thing I want to talk about is Club 33.

So Club 33 is an exclusive members only club at Disneyland.

And some conspiracy theories speculate about secretive or mysterious activities occurring within its walls.

This is shrouded in mystery.

The luxury experience is rumored to currently boast a wait list of up to 10 years to join with a membership costing up to $50,000 for initiation.

According to Disney, Club 33 is simply named after its address at 33 Royal Street in New Orleans Square at Disneyland.

However, several others believe that there are other explanations behind the name.

Most people think that it’s there were 33 institutional patrons at Disneyland when it was first being built in 1966 to 1967.

I heard this and I went Club 33, the 33rd degree, which is the highest degree in Freemasonry.

He was a Freemason.

So I think Club 33 is probably a reference to Freemasonry.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That makes sense.

You just have to pay a lot of money.

Yes, but because of that, people assume that maybe there’s more going on.

But I’ll tell you what I learned about what it probably is.

So there are four Disney Club 33s.

There’s one in Disneyland, Tokyo Disneyland, shanghai Disneyland and Walt Disney World.

But each club is like a separate membership.

So you can’t go to all of them.

You only can go to the one you are a member at.

They have their own membership requirements.

They’re not interconnected.

And so these clubs, it sounds like, are really just somewhere like little restaurants that hold 20 to 60 people at a time.

And club members can make reservations for guests, for formal dining.

And then there’s like levels, platinum or corporate members.

You can bring guests with them for informal dining.

But it sounds like it’s probably just something like these celebrities maybe who like want to take a break from the paparazzi and the heat.

They’ve paid a lot of money.

They’d like bop on in to Club 33.

Someone on Reddit said, they quote, they wrote a post about their experience.

I went for lunch with my husband back in February with one alcoholic drink each.

It came out to about $125 per person with tax and tip.

Once you ring the doorbell, they let you in to a small reception area and then you’re escorted into the Court of Angels where you sip on some flavored water while you wait for your table.

When your table is ready, you can either take the stairs or the now modernized elevator.

Once upstairs, there’s merchandise that you can purchase that’s not available elsewhere.

To the left is a hallway to the bathroom, straight ahead is the Salon Nouveau, which is for members and their guests if accompanied by the member only.

These people were not members.

Their friend made their reservation.

There’s high back chairs and bank windows, so you can look out over Disney while you’re eating.

They had about a two-hour lunch and it was just them and another couple there.

So it sounds like, I just think it’s like another money game for most people.

I don’t think that there’s secret anything happening.

Follow the money.

It’s like 50 grand to get in and then you have to pay 10 grand a year.

Is that what I said?

And then it’s like a yearly fee and this is like just to have access to go pay for your meals.

That’s just like country club.

Excessive.

Country clubs.

Country club that you have to like, I just think also country clubs, you do have to pay to get your, even if you’re local, even if you’ve got Disney down the street.

It just stresses me out to think about having to get to Disney, having to get into the, go through the lines, get to the park, do the whole process.

I’m like, that’s just so much work to just eat in a country club.

It’s their country club.

And so yeah, so we didn’t really talk about the biohazard issues, but apparently another thing that happens, this is not really conspiracy theory, but interesting fact, is that at least once a month, they have to shut down rides because people are-

Dumping body waste.

Dumping ashes.

And so the big place I heard was-

Pirates of the Caribbean.

Pirates of the Caribbean.

It’s a small world.

And the tower.

Oh, really?

Is that the haunted house?

What’s the haunted house?

No, you’re probably-

there’s two different scary rides.

There’s a haunted mansion.

A haunted mansion.

Which is what you’re thinking of.

And then Tower of Terror.

I’m like, there’s no way anybody was throwing dust in Tower of Terror, because you would just-

You would just whatever use the time.

No, haunted mansion.

Haunted mansion is like a huge Disney obsession.

I love the haunted mansion.

And did you know that was also ride first movie after?

Yeah.

I don’t really-

That’s because you were like not a kid when those movies were-

I think I’m pretty certain I was born after the movie.

Yeah.

And I thought it was like a code biohazard, but kait, you just said, what do they call it?

Code grandma.

Which is all funny.

And guys, when I was there, I tried so hard to pretend I was dumping grandma, like I would dip my fingers in the water a little bit, acting like I was dropping something.

They never called code grandma.

No.

And you didn’t see anyone else throw it.

No, and I looked.

I looked hard.

What ride would you guys want your ashes on?

Haunted Mansion.

Haunted Mansion would be kind of cool.

What ride did I like a lot that was slow?

The People Mover would be kind of funny because that’s another old one.

The People Mover, like to get around the…

No, it’s a ride.

Oh.

The People Movers ride.

Where is it?

Where Space mountain is.

They move you through, like you go…

It’s like a tour of Tomorrowland.

A tour?

But you’ve never been on the People Mover?

I’d probably want to be on a little…

Maybe in the Safari, Sprinkle Me with the Animals.

I thought we only had to choose between all of those.

Oh, yeah.

What was your question?

Any ride?

No, I mean, I’m not a Disney adult.

I don’t want my ashes.

I’m sure you guys don’t want your ashes either, but I was just a hypothetical.

I already told you what I want to do.

I want to put me in a bag and plant a tree on me.

Well, if you had to be spread in Disney, where would you want to be spread?

She said Haunted Mansion.

Maybe somewhere in Pandora would be kind of fun because it glows in the dark at night.

wait a second.

I take it back.

I want to be buried in the Star Wars land.

Oh, that’s a good one because it is painless.

Hold on.

I want someone to throw my ashes on Kylo Ren.

I think that could be a little feasible.

He’s very visible there.

He has a little show.

He has a little show.

He comes out every single day.

He picks out all girls.

Yeah, he does.

It’s really cute.

It’s so adorable.

kait also has such a crush on Adam Driver.

Adam Driver.

100%.

If you know you now.

Sorry, ribbon boy.

Your girl’s got a crush.

She knows.

If I could pick any amusement park, I’d rather be spread at Harry Potter World, maybe, or the amusement park I grew up going to in New Hampshire, Canby Lake Park.

Put me in the lake.

But I also will have a rule that don’t cremate me if I died of suspicious causes.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, we all know that.

No one here is cremating.

No one’s significant other is cremating them the day after their death.

No.

Okay, so that’s all I have.

We’ll kind of wrap this up.

So are there any of those conspiracy theories that you buy into, guys?

We didn’t really have a poll.

No, I do believe that Disney is part of the Illuminati.

That is very interesting.

I because I know we did a whole thing on the Illuminati, but I am starting to believe in the New World Order.

Guys, talking about the Illuminati with the Lizard People?

No, New World Order, Illuminati.

Well, we still have to do a New World Order episode.

Guys, I was driving around our home, not hometown, but like center of town.

I’m not going to say the specific restaurant turned out for fear of revealing our location.

But one of our frequented restaurants that we go to very often has a Freemason symbol on the top of the building, like the upside down triangle with the G in the middle.

Oh my God.

Guys, I think our favorite restaurant to go to is like a Freemason hotspot.

I was mind blown.

I literally was sitting in traffic and I was like, oh my God.

No, Colleen.

Okay, kait, what should the people do?

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And thanks for listening, guys.

Yeah.

We’ll see you again next Tuesday.

Maybe next Tuesday, Maggie.

Next Tuesday.

See you then.