I’m on board. Serious, my uncle had it. Plum Island is a three mile by one mile island isolated off the coast of New York. It is home to a lab run by the Department of Homeland Security and Department of Agriculture. The lab claims to be dedicated to the study of disease and animal livestock. They claim that in compliance with Nixon’s 1969 order, there is no offensive bioweapons research taking place there. Instead, they argue, the goal is to focus on protecting the U.S. against the introduction of animal diseases. Their principal focus, they allege, is to prevent foot and mouth disease, which has not occurred in the U.S. since 1929. Foot and mouth. I’ve never heard of foot and mouth. Or like hoof and mouth. No, this is a separate does exist. This is separate. The island can only be accessed by military ferry, which is escorted by armed guards, and personnel are not permitted to have pets or spend time around animals due to the inherent risk of disease spread. While the government maintains that there is no bioweapons research happening there, evidence exists that discredits their claims. In fact, one of the primary goals of the lab when it was first developed by Nazi scientist Eric Traub, not always the Nazis, was to research the use of ticks as bioweapons. Since that time, people have argued that the lab is responsible for development and spread of tick-borne illnesses, including Lyme disease and the African swine flu outbreak in Cuba. Is the government performing innocent studies to limit the spread of animal transmitted infections? Or are they performing harmful biologic research under the guise of benign animal studies? Immediately believe it. It’s sounding a little familiar, is it not? Yeah. Immediately, yes. Immediately. Yeah. Plum Island, off the coast of Long Island, New York, was purchased by the United States government during the Spanish-American War for the construction of Fort Terry, which was then deactivated after World War II. In 1952, it was reactivated for animal disease research by the U.S. Army. This is mind-blowing. Do you guys know about Operation Paperclip? No. Okay. So apparently, as part of Operation Paperclip, 1600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians were given asylum in the United States between 1945 and 1959.

You know who this sounds like, Colleen? Bucky? Yeah. Hydra? Hydra, if you will. Any Marvel fans out there? It always goes back to Marvel. Ring of the Interest.

So one of these scientists, I mean, I guess I knew, like, right, we had we know Einstein. We talked about Einstein coming over here. Right. But like, I didn’t know that we just were like Nazis. Come join us. Because you have brains brains, we were just gonna ignore the fact that you were a Nazi and let you come over here. Yeah. So one of these Nazis was Eric Traub, apologies for that pronunciation. Traub. He had a secret lab in the Baltic and was investigating ways to poison Soviet cattle. So he had conducted experiments using ticks and insects. And he came up with this concept of like, why don’t we inject these ticks with diseases and then release them as bioweapons? So he’s doing this during the war. War ends. We say, come on over. You know what? We’re gonna give you this island with a research lab and just like let you have control of it and do your thing. Yeah, sounds right. Sounds like a great idea. Let’s give this Nazi a multi-million dollar lab with unfettered access to transmissible diseases. And his own private island. Yeah. Wild. So as far as the public is aware, the purpose of choosing this location is because there was a law banning the study of foot and mouth disease on the mainland. Again, we know about hand, foot and mouth disease. Foot and mouth disease has not existed in like our parents’ lifetime, maybe not their parents’ lifetime. Yeah. Um like smallpox. Yeah. So foot and mouth disease is an extremely contagious virus that can be passed between hooved animals. So sometimes they call it like hoof and mouth disease, and from person to hooved animals. However, foot and mouth disease was eradicated in 1929. So tell me, guys, why in 1952 did they decide they needed to invest millions of dollars into studying the disease? New fear. So apparently there were outbreaks in Canada and Mexico. And they’re like, well, that’s why we were studying it, because there were outbreaks. But those didn’t happen until later in the 1950s. Liar. In 2012, I will say, let’s give them some credit, two researchers in the facility did actually develop the first uh foot and mouth vaccine, which did not require live virus, because the whole reason it has to be out there is like we don’t want it to get transmitted, right? Right. And so if you they had a vaccine, but if it required a live virus, like that’s no good. You could still spread it. So it was kind of a big deal that they were able to produce this like inactivated vaccine. So that was that’s kind of a big deal, I guess, because then you can actually like safely develop and manufacture it. Um, but still, I’m just like, why was there so much stress on this virus that hadn’t even like really impacted us? Okay, so back to the history of Plum Island. So this Nazi scientist becomes the like godfather of Plum Island, and again, they allege that they were only ever working on disease defense. Then in 1993, News Day, which is the daily Long Island newspaper, it releases documents proving that there was biologic warfare experiments happening during the Cold War. Again, so they claim like 1969, Nixon said no offensive biologic warfare. They’re like, Yep, we’ve abided to that. We find out in 1993 that’s not true, but they swear that was all in the past, that was during the Cold War. We haven’t done that since the 90s. They actually let these Russian scientists come and inspect the facility because they want to like prove to them. I don’t know. Do you think what do you think of that?

I feel like how couldn’t you just like clean up your Yeah? People come and ex inspect my work like every two years, and you know what we do? Just clean up. Yeah. We know when they’re coming, we make it look nice. Yeah. Literally.

So I think 2002 it became known as the Plum Island Animal Disease Center, which falls under the Department of Homeland Security and Science and Technology Office of National Laboratories. In 2008, the first Montauk monster washed ashore. So we talked about this. We actually posted a picture on our website and on Instagram. You guys remember the Montauk Monster? The Debbie Dodds. Could be a raccoon, could be a monster, could be a chupacabra. And so this kind of prompted theories. Like, was there experimentation happening? Were they crossbreeding? Uh, I actually don’t when I looked at the Montauk monster, I think I agree there’s probably a raccoon that was like bloated in the ocean. Raccoon. So I don’t know if I bel believe that there’s like crossbreeding invest or you know, crossbreeding research happening, but that’s the theory. In 2010, there were reports of a security guard discovering the corpse of a human-like monster with, quote, really long web fingers and holes in his skull indicating he had potentially undergone neurosurgery. But then there’s like not a lot of other information. So it sounds to me like maybe somebody with like Marfan syndrome washed ashore. Because then there’s one article where it’s like, no, I mean, they just say it’s a man with long fingers, and that’s it. At one point, it’s like a white man, and then in a different article, it’s like a black man. I’m like, it’s probably just like a decomposed man coming from New York or something, washed ashore. And then another interesting fact. So Afia Sadiqi was an MIT trained neuroscientist working for Al-Qaeda who was captured in Afghanistan in 2009. In her handbag were handwritten notes referring to mass casualty attacks with multiple U.S. targets. And you know what was on that list? What? Plum Island. So, like this could have I mean, what does she know that is happening on Plum Island that would make it a worthwhile target for a terrorist attack? Yeah. In 1978, there was an accidental release of foot and mouth disease into some of the cattle in the holding pens outside the laboratory facility. So again, I’m not claiming that anything was intentional, but uh can you I mean, it sounds like someone’s maybe mishandling some lab specimens. Have we have we heard that before? Sure have. Uh-huh. But they did eradicate the 200 cattle to prevent any spread. There’s also some theories that it might not have been foot and mouth disease, but a different biologic weapon. Uh, in 2004, there were two unintentional releases of foot and mouth disease, but the government claims that it was all contained within Plum Island. And Bush, the Bush administration hasn’t aid, is the one who came out and was like, hey, we got to fess up. We had some leaks, but everything’s been contained. We’re all good. So we do know that Traub was experimenting with using ticks to spread disease as a possible bioweapon. And there have now been some partially declassified records indicating a number of research studies looking at the disbursement of ticks and fleas as possible vectors for infection.

Oh my gosh. Well, uh, isn’t do they get this idea like from the bubonic plague? You know, like that where the fleas bit the mice, fleas bit the rats, and then the fleas bit the humans, right? Yeah. The rat was infected, bit the rat, then came and bit the human. Gotcha. That’s how I wonder if this was a thought. Maybe. Because it was so hard to track down, like what how the bubonic plague was being spread. Yeah.

So here are some of the tests that we do know took place. Okay. 1954, Operation Big Itch. Oh my god. Great name, huh? I cannot. Uh, series of tests in Utah were performed to see if fleas could be used as a vector for biologic warfare. They built these like, quote, bombs where they would put 100 to 200,000 leaves. They would have guinea pigs on the ground. And then their goal was like, if we drop this bomb full of fleas, will they infect the guinea pigs? I don’t like it. Operation Dropkick in 1956 in Savannah. Residents consented to participating allegedly, and they released uninfected female mosquitoes. And then they just like tracked the reports of mosquito bites. Did the same thing a couple of years later in Florida, where they released a million mosquitoes. Oh my gosh. Um, I mean, these weren’t infected. They were just bugs, but they were like they were just like mosquitoes, but they were like, can we track how we could spread them? Right. Uh, 1956, Operation May Day. We have uh uninfected yellow fever mosquitoes released in Savannah to track their dispersal. Oh my gosh. Operation Big Buzz, 1955, 330,000 uninfected mosquitoes in Georgia, again, tracking the spread. Uh, and they were like, oh, look, they made it 2,000 feet away. Like they were able to track all that. And the scariest one, I think, which is kind of taking us back to, we talked a little bit on chemtrails about the boat in San Francisco. So they did a similar study, Operation Magic Sword, in 1965, and they released mosquitoes off a boat and found that they were able to travel three and a half miles with the assistance of ocean winds. And they, so they’re like, wait, we could do like, we could get in a boat, take these mosquitoes like across an ocean to someone we were fighting a war with, and then like release these infected mosquitoes and use that as warfare. Oh my gosh.

And I’m never gonna trust a mosquito bike. I know that’s exactly how I feel. Like, I feel like I’m gonna see a swarm of mosquitoes and be like, the government like this. Yeah. Um forget birds, Colleen. I don’t trust the bugs. Yeah. There’s a lot more bugs than there are birds.

And they’re a lot more like you microscopic, like you can’t see them. They’re gonna be bugged. A September 1945 memo to the Secretary of War detailed a number of accomplishments regarding bioweapons. The United States had mass-produced a number of pathogens, including Bacillus anthracis anthrax. Anthrax. Uh, had developed cluster bombs to spread the pathogens, and had constructed facilities for the large-scale production of pathogens to target crops and people. They alleged that much of this took place in Fort Detroit, Ireland. Crops, crop fields. We did talk about in like the Montauk and Chemtrails episode that Nixon had done this ban in 1969 and we weren’t allowed to research biologic weapons. Yeah. Uh, however, in 1975, so six years later, the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence released a report the CIA had maintained a stockpile of biologic agents and toxins in violation of Nixon’s orders. Of course. So we know they were up to no good. Right. Right. Oh my God. So two examples of tick-borne illnesses that were spread from Plum Island. So the first one is Lyme disease, and this really is as a reminder uh Lyme disease is a vector-borne illness caused by the bacteria borrelia, and it is usually transmitted to humans via ticks. So 70 to 80% of people who get Lyme disease from this bacteria will develop erythema migraines, which is at like bullseye rash within a week, and then usually that progresses. You’ll get fever, headaches, tiredness, joint stiffness, palpitations, potentially memory issues. So borrelia the bacteria, we know has been around for thousands of years. Like they found it present on like fossilized remains. But no one had ever had like Lyme disease illness like we know it to be until the 70s. No one was ever getting sick from Lyme disease. So you would maybe be exposed to this bacteria. It was present, not infecting you. So what you’re saying is it needed a vector to infect us, or maybe needed a little um scientific and a little manipulation. Yeah. So the first diagnosis of Lyme disease was not until 1975 in Lyme, Connecticut, when an outbreak occurred. Do you guys see the map I posted on the share drive? Scroll down. Yep. Okay. So look, look at that. Look at where Lyme, Connecticut is, and look where Plum Island is. Oh my God. That’s so close. Right. It’s so it’s like a 10 10 miles or something, but it’s this island in the water, and then directly north of it, 10 miles north, right on the coast, is Lime, Connecticut. So like if you had a boat and you left your island, you left Plum Island in this boat and sailed across straight north, you would hit Lime, Connecticut.

You know what is it also on Long Island? What? What? Montauk. I I just want to say that I did re-look at that demi dog. Its face looks very strange. Like I don’t know if it looks like a dog or a raccoon. Maybe more beaver.

No. I think it’s just definitely a bloated, partially decomposed something.

But do they have mountain lions up there?

Oh no, because it’s really confusing because when you read about Plum Island, they talk about how like any wildlife is shot on site because they want to prevent the spread of these diseases. But then they talk about how now I’m talking, I’m gonna tell you later how they’re relocating Plum Island. And the whole island? Well, we’ll get we’ll get into it. But they’re talking about how perhaps they’ll use the island when they relocate the laboratories. I’m sorry, I know if you’re asking me now. We’re not gonna shift that piece of land. Like the whole island. But when they if they move this well, when they move this research station, which they are in the process of doing, it sounds like, um, they’re like, well, maybe we can make this like a wildlife sanctuary. So then I’m really confused. Are is there a whole bunch of wild animals on this island or are they shooting them all on site? I don’t know. Very confusing.

Um, I don’t like this. They should not be doing this to the animals. I don’t trust it at all. Um even the little bugs.

I don’t like the bugs, but so again, you when you look at this map, which Colleen will post for you guys, if you have a boat, you go straight north, you’re gonna hit Lyme, Connecticut. So it definitely makes sense that perhaps like Trubb was was developing the Lyme disease as we know it with this bacteria, injecting it into ticks, and then I’m not saying it was intentional, but maybe some of these ticks got out, you know? Hmm. Sound familiar? Yep. So allegedly the government was like, no, we were just performing gain of function studies in the in the 50s with borrelia bacteria. William Bergdorfer was an NIH scientist for whom the bacteria that causes Lyme disease, again, that’s Borelia is named. So it’s Borelia Bergdorpy. Oh. Uh-huh. So in 2013, he was recorded saying that Lyme was not a naturally occurring germ that was spread by natural causes. Because right now, people are like, well, if we didn’t create Lyme disease, why suddenly do we have so much Lyme disease? Right. The government has claimed, like, you know, we’ve had an increase in deer population, we have global warming, which is causing animals to move further north. But this guy, William Bergdorfer, who the bacteria is named for, he was on video in 2013 saying it was created in military lab for the purpose of harming humans and animals, and somehow it got out. Oh my God. He’s dead now. How did he die? Well, full disclosure, I knew you were gonna ask, so I did look it up because it sounds very suspicious. He had Parkinson’s. Hmm. Interesting. That’s very interesting. The Yale School of Public Health claims that the epidemic is caused by ecologic changes that have allowed deers, ticks, and bacterium to invade. We now have like much stricter hunting restrictions and fewer predators, so we’re not like taking out all these deers like we used to. Right. And again, climate change is maybe allowing these animals to survive the cold winters, move further north. And a lot of the wildlife that couldn’t survive up north in like New England have been able to move 28 miles further north as a result of global warming. That’s like gonna keep happening. I don’t know. So they’re saying that’s why like New England has so much Lyme disease. You’re like, do they?

No, I know you just said that she said it’s Rocky Mountain fever.

That’s different. Yeah.

Yeah, that’s different. Rocky Mountain spotted fever? Isn’t that from ticks?

Yes. Yeah, it’s another tick-born.

But there is just so much limes up there just because of how the woods was.

Yeah, the the deer. But there were no limes before 1975. In the 1980s, preserved insect and animal samples found on Shelter Island and Long Island contained bacteria traced back to the timing of Traub’s tick research. So kind of confirming that obviously they were injecting bacteria into these, like into these fleas, ticks, mosquitoes. And again, I’m not alleging that they like intentionally released them, but it does seem like there was some research happening that was not contained. The National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2022. So I guess you know they make this budget like over a year in advance, included an investigation into the DOD’s possible weaponization of ticks and other insects with Lyme disease. Representative Chris Smith from Jersey, I guess he introduced this amendment that said, in the spirit of transparency and accountability, my amendment directs the government accountability office to probe whether the Department of Defense ever weaponized ticks with Lyme disease or any other dangerous pathogen. There was a senator from Maine who spoke out in support. Um it’s very confusing to me because it seems like this budget didn’t pass, but there was an act that did pass that was like looking at this, like we we to investigate. Right. And when I’m like, well, it’s been a couple of years, what’s been going on? And when I look into it, all you see online is like the research that’s been done from. This funding into diagnosis and treatment, not a lot on like where did it originate from.

I mean, that makes sense because it’s I mean try and stop it now, but yeah, right. It’s like, I know we don’t want to talk about 2020, but it is like when people start saying, like, oh, like that it was made in the lab or whatever. I’m like, it doesn’t matter, it’s still here. Like we still need to treat people who have COVID now, you know? Like that was like my stance on it. Like, why are we fighting about where it came? Yeah, you do have to figure that out, right?

Because you have to be like, okay, so if something was mishandled in a lab, how can we make sure that’s not gonna happen again? Right? Epidemiological investigation systems changes. Right. Yeah. But again, I think this is the thing. The government just declassifies something 50 years later and no one cares anymore because while everyone cared 50 years ago, we’ve got so many other things to worry about.

Right. Because, you know, people have political agendas they have to push, you know. So that’s what I’ve got on Lyme disease. Oh, they 100% made in. Yeah. Also to be like so arrogant that you think that you can control these like tiny little bugs. But they’re they’re not like cattle where you can tag them and you know where they are, like or like even inject them with like a little tracker. Like, these are like fleas that you can’t see. Well, I think that’s of course they’re gonna get out.

That’s like pretty much what they were trying to do with all these mosquitoes tests, right? We’re like, oh, just report to us if you get a mosquito bite. I would love to know how many people from the lab got vine disease. You just like prophylax everyone with doxy in the lab. And then we have the African swine fever. So this is a highly contagious and usually lethal virus that only infects pigs. It causes hemorrhagic fevers with death within one week of contraction. Uh, it’s transmitted between ticks and pigs, cannot be transmitted to humans like swine flu can. That’s why this is called the African swine flu fever.

This ohce again. Again. Terrifying. Yeah. This sounds so scary. Yeah.

The idea is that this infects pigs, but it like will ruin your entire yeah. Oh my god. Like uh flock of pigs. Like it could impact a whole country’s like access to food, right?

A drove of pigs, a drift or drove, a group of young pigs is called a litter, a group of hogs is called a pastel or a team, a group of swine is called a sounder. I do have to say this. Have you guys ever heard of like pigs giving birth and eating their babies? Oh my god. It is a regular thing.

Well, what did you guys tell me? What was the deal with so cats will eat you right away, dogs will eat you later? Dogs will wait.

Yeah. Yeah, dogs will wait. Like cats will like, you won’t even be cold. And the cats chowing down. And you know what? Then he can’t eat me. He’s allowed. I would rather him live. You know, if I’m already dead and he’s starved. I don’t want Tanner to eat me. Yeah. I don’t want Murphy to eat me. I don’t think Murphy would eat me. I don’t think Tanner would eat me either. And him. You know what I mean? Tanner would be like, yeah, he’d just be losing his mind. When people people would know something’s wrong because Tanner would yap and yap and yap and yap. I feel like he would yap to like sound the alarm and then somebody would come find you.

You think Murphy would just like curl up with you? Yeah. So in 1971, there was an African swine fever outbreak in Cuba, leading to the forced slaughter of over 500,000 pigs to prevent a nationwide epidemic. This was the first and only time the virus had hit the Western Hemisphere. No humans were injured, but Cuba was unable to produce pork for many months. And we know that like the Cubans love their loved pork. What did they do with all the dead pigs? Just burn them? Burn them? I don’t know. That’s a good question. So this was interesting because up to this point, Cuba was known for pretty strict regulations regarding food handling. And interestingly, the outbreak originated at the exact same time from two separate locations in Cuba. So a plant? I think so. Definitely sounds like it. So then in 1977, this US intelligence source comes forward and he goes, uh, yeah, I was given the virus in a sealed, unmarked container at Fort Gulak near the Panama Canal and instructed to hand it over to anti-castro terrorists. What? Six weeks later, the outbreak occurred. Newsday, which we talked about earlier, they kind of like broke the story on Plum Island. Yeah. Uh that’s the Long Island newspaper. It published a story with multiple witnesses describing how it was transported. So they were able to kind of like track all these different people who transported it from place to place. So they like I went from Plum Island to Fort Dietrich to Fort Gulak before traveling to Cuba with a stop at this deserted American territory of Nevassa Island, which is somewhere between Jamaica and Haiti. So six days later, shocker, the CIA releases an official denial. Uh-huh. But the paper didn’t even release like a retraction because they had so much evidence and like so many sources. Right. They’re like, we’re standing by the story. It’s one of these that’s like JFK that we all know that we’re not getting the real story. The only place in the Western Hemisphere where the African swine fever virus was available. Oh God. Was on Plum Island. We know this infection is in Plum Island. All of a sudden, we’re having issues with Cuba. Cuba has an outbreak, not from one location, but from two separate locations. Plum Island has it. Well, Plum Island had access to it. Oh my gosh. So those are kind of the two, those were the two big infections I was able to track as like probably being from Plum Island. Kind of an update on the situation. So last year they opened a $1.25 billion lab in Kansas. Uh I can’t really see when I go online what is happening as far as like the transition, like where we are in that transition. But the ultimate goal was to transfer all of that research that was happening on Plum Island to this Kansas City lab. It’s like in Manhattan, Kansas. Weird. I I have I have a lot of concerns about that. First of all, Kansas is the middle of the country. Yep. Like I guess also you allege that are grown in the middle of the country. Yeah, you’re alleged that you’re like only studying animal infections.

Like, aren’t there a lot of cattle and animals that can’t so much of our like meat in five years when an outbreak comes out of the middle of America, will we sit in here?

So I think it’s like on the Kansas State campus. That’s not making me uncomfortable or anything. And what? As far as again, there’s a lot of chatter about what they’re going to do with this Plum Island. And one of the things like a nature preserve, which again really confuses me because haven’t you been like offing all these animals at your hands? Right. That’s makes me worried that food sources. Yeah. And Plum Island is designated a level three laboratory. And that means that officially they can only study infections that can be transmitted like animal to animal. They can’t study any infections that go like animal to human when they move to Kansas, which again, they may have already moved to Kansas, or at least in the process of moving to Kansas. It’s going to be designated a level four laboratory, meaning they can study animal diseases that are transmitted to humans. So like you’ve already, well, we know they already do this with like Lyme disease and stuff, right? Right. But you’ve already proven you’ve already had outbreaks. You’ve already had these mosquitoes disappear that have infections. Anyway, that’s what I have. So are you guys gonna sleep well tonight? What are you thinking? I’m never gonna trust a bug ever again.

I don’t understand why they have to do it in Kansas. I mean, can’t they go to like the middle of the ocean? On a boat.

I’m sure they start like I mean that’s kind of where they were, was like on this island, and that was like close. Close enough to hit uh Lyme, Connecticut. That’s why I’m like, can’t they go to like some of these territories? Well, thanks for joining us. And uh that’s an interesting one, Meg. Yeah, guys, just a reminder, don’t forget to check out our Facebook and Instagram pages at Three Scheme Queens. That’s the number three Scheme Queens, all one word. We’re also on Reddit, same username. If you want to check out our website, go to three schemequeens.com and you can find links to our social media accounts, our Buzzsprout page, all of our episodes, additional content, our contact page, and our discussion board where you can engage with us and share any updates on the topics that we have discussed. Let us know how we’re doing and what you want to hear next. There are also opportunities to financially support us. There are links to buy us a cup of coffee, links to our recently updated merch store, and affiliate links. And as always, if you choose not to financially support us, we appreciate the follows, the downloads, listens, the likes.

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